Comments on: ACE Library for C++ http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/ace-library-for-c/ MMO game development Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:51:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Steve Huston http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/ace-library-for-c/comment-page-1/#comment-7950 Steve Huston Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:03:15 +0000 http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/14/ace-library-for-c/#comment-7950 It's great to hear that ACE is helping MMO developers as well as others. I'm also impressed that Eric was up and running with ACE in a day. Congrats! Quick follow-up on a couple of the previous comments: - ACE pre-dates TAO by about 10 years... the research group that had a big hand in developing ACE has moved on to TAO (and other distributed object computing areas) so TAO et al gets a lot of attention from that crowd. ACE has a lot of interest and support as well, but when everything is working, there tends to be less noise :-) - The tutorial from the "Boeing" guy was most likely from Umar Syyid at Hughes. Umar (and James CE Johnson, author of another set of tutorials) teamed up with me to co-write "The ACE Programmer's Guide". The older tutorials later went unmaintained and were subsequently removed from the ACE distribution. Good point about ACE being multiple layers that aren't readily apparant... will try to fix that. It’s great to hear that ACE is helping MMO developers as well as others. I’m also impressed that Eric was up and running with ACE in a day. Congrats!

Quick follow-up on a couple of the previous comments:
- ACE pre-dates TAO by about 10 years… the research group that had a big hand in developing ACE has moved on to TAO (and other distributed object computing areas) so TAO et al gets a lot of attention from that crowd. ACE has a lot of interest and support as well, but when everything is working, there tends to be less noise :-)

- The tutorial from the “Boeing” guy was most likely from Umar Syyid at Hughes. Umar (and James CE Johnson, author of another set of tutorials) teamed up with me to co-write “The ACE Programmer’s Guide”. The older tutorials later went unmaintained and were subsequently removed from the ACE distribution.

Good point about ACE being multiple layers that aren’t readily apparant… will try to fix that.

]]> By: emanon http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/ace-library-for-c/comment-page-1/#comment-4164 emanon Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:32:42 +0000 http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/14/ace-library-for-c/#comment-4164 ACE is really solid, but as you say it does take time to figure it all out. If you can find it, there's a great set of documentation that was done by a guy teaching people at Boeing(I think it was boeing anyway). ACE is really solid, but as you say it does take time to figure it all out.
If you can find it, there’s a great set of documentation that was done by a guy teaching people at Boeing(I think it was boeing anyway).

]]> By: Eric http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/ace-library-for-c/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Eric Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:13:19 +0000 http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/14/ace-library-for-c/#comment-42 The book is pretty important for getting started. The low-level components, especially, are not of the "look at the header files and go" variety. :) And to use the book efficiently you do have to be comfortable with both low-level C concepts as well as high level C++ templates. It's not a terribly hand-holdy book; it just jumps in and starts explaining things as fast as it can. Some of the most powerful ACE components are for use with TAO, but you can definitely get a lot of mileage with just the stand-alone base ACE algorithms. The book is pretty important for getting started. The low-level components, especially, are not of the “look at the header files and go” variety. :) And to use the book efficiently you do have to be comfortable with both low-level C concepts as well as high level C++ templates. It’s not a terribly hand-holdy book; it just jumps in and starts explaining things as fast as it can.

Some of the most powerful ACE components are for use with TAO, but you can definitely get a lot of mileage with just the stand-alone base ACE algorithms.

]]> By: Todd Berkebile http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/ace-library-for-c/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Todd Berkebile Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:19:36 +0000 http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/14/ace-library-for-c/#comment-38 I can personally attest that ACE is used in many MMOs, particularly in China. Here in the US "not invented here" syndrome is still a very common disease, however. I will say that I'm impressed you were able to do anything meaningful with ACE in just one day; I know you're one of the shinier apples out there but that still must be a fairly good book ;). ACE is very large and very complex. Its not always obvious how you're supposed to use it. The only downside to ACE is that you tend to need the entire framework and its hard to pick out just the parts you want. I'm also not a huge fan of CORBA and ACE is really designed for use along with TAO. Still, its battle tested production quality code that works well on the platforms it supports. To learn more, check out its home on the web: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html I can personally attest that ACE is used in many MMOs, particularly in China. Here in the US “not invented here” syndrome is still a very common disease, however. I will say that I’m impressed you were able to do anything meaningful with ACE in just one day; I know you’re one of the shinier apples out there but that still must be a fairly good book ;). ACE is very large and very complex. Its not always obvious how you’re supposed to use it. The only downside to ACE is that you tend to need the entire framework and its hard to pick out just the parts you want. I’m also not a huge fan of CORBA and ACE is really designed for use along with TAO. Still, its battle tested production quality code that works well on the platforms it supports.

To learn more, check out its home on the web: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html

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