Comments on: The returning-player cycle http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/the-returning-player-cycle/ MMO game development Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:42:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: MM http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/the-returning-player-cycle/#comment-47 MM Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:22:38 +0000 http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/03/the-returning-player-cycle/#comment-47 Interestingly, I think that the destruction of Arwic and turning it into a blackend, smoking crater at the end of the Shadow War is probably still one of the most talked about events even 7 years later. And yet, the filling in of the crater and the creation of the new garrisoned town was a disappointment when I went back explicitly to gaze upon the remnants of the devastation. I'm not sure where this fits in psychologically with your article, but I think that nostalgia was actually LOST in the rebuild. My favorite haunts in AC2 where the callbacks to AC1. I would take my Order neophytes out to the still present fallen Shadow Spire to preach the evil of the Shadows and the destruction they wrought. It's such a shame that the town ruins and quests that might have better helped AC1 players get into AC2 didn't show up until the expansion. It was great to be reacquanted with the Ben Ten stories. What should the expectation be for an MMO sequel? Taking AC and EQ as lessons, what should be the recommendation for building a sequel to an MMO? Interestingly, I think that the destruction of Arwic and turning it into a blackend, smoking crater at the end of the Shadow War is probably still one of the most talked about events even 7 years later.

And yet, the filling in of the crater and the creation of the new garrisoned town was a disappointment when I went back explicitly to gaze upon the remnants of the devastation. I’m not sure where this fits in psychologically with your article, but I think that nostalgia was actually LOST in the rebuild.

My favorite haunts in AC2 where the callbacks to AC1. I would take my Order neophytes out to the still present fallen Shadow Spire to preach the evil of the Shadows and the destruction they wrought. It’s such a shame that the town ruins and quests that might have better helped AC1 players get into AC2 didn’t show up until the expansion. It was great to be reacquanted with the Ben Ten stories.

What should the expectation be for an MMO sequel? Taking AC and EQ as lessons, what should be the recommendation for building a sequel to an MMO?

]]> By: asakawa http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/the-returning-player-cycle/#comment-27 asakawa Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:34:33 +0000 http://www.eldergame.com/2007/10/03/the-returning-player-cycle/#comment-27 excellent points. and this is what final fantasy falls down on. i had a great time in FFXI but the end game took up a lot of time and i became disillusioned. since then (having gone on to WoW, lotro and eve) i've often wanted to go back but they make it so difficult (or at least did - this may have changed but they've already lost me). i would have to buy a new copy of the game (you can't register with the same serial) go through the massive and incredibly slow update process only to find that my character with a huge number of hours on the clock got deleted 3 months after cancelling my subscription. as you say, there's no good reason for this. it only hurts their profits. excellent points. and this is what final fantasy falls down on. i had a great time in FFXI but the end game took up a lot of time and i became disillusioned. since then (having gone on to WoW, lotro and eve) i’ve often wanted to go back but they make it so difficult (or at least did – this may have changed but they’ve already lost me). i would have to buy a new copy of the game (you can’t register with the same serial) go through the massive and incredibly slow update process only to find that my character with a huge number of hours on the clock got deleted 3 months after cancelling my subscription.
as you say, there’s no good reason for this. it only hurts their profits.

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